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Those Plundered Plums

  • Jan. 6th, 2009 at 7:48 AM
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I left out a "plum" of a quote from my Best of JKR list last week, and that's not right since this had such a Christmasy theme! Therefore, this post is for [info]aredwitch, who enjoyed the following quotes more than anyone I know. I'm also adding a new "plundered plums" tag, because I'm absolutely sure we may hear this phrase again when the new Lexicon book is published later this month.

From the Trial Transcript, Day Three

I have a very strong view and my view --
4 my view is that it is analogous to me making a cake and that in
5 the creation of this Lexicon, all the plums in my cake, as it
6 were. . .

I believe that
13 the contents of those books have been plundered

From Cendali's Summation:

It's incentivizing people who write about Harry
24 Potter to take less, to not just copy, as Ms. Rowling, once
25 again, eloquently put it, not taking the plums in her cake or

1 cherry-picking out the adorable wonderful clever things about
2 it and selling in her own. Not taking her plums; so taking
3 less, but doing more
And from the Judge's Final Opinion, page 18 (even he seemed impressed!):

She compared this taking of her work to plundering all of the “plums in [her]
cake.” (Tr. (Rowling) at 647:3-6).
And that caused [info]aredwitch to write on Leaky Cauldron:

"DE(DavidEnglish) did the judge really write that SVA 'plundered' JKR and stolen her 'plums'? That sounds so out of place in a legal document, I have to go back and read it again. It sounds so suggestive. Who knew that a legal judgement could be so sexy?
So it occurred to me that there are two analogies going on here with the "Plundered Plums" reference. One is to the obvious character in Deathly Hallows who was owner of the "dirigible plums" (strange radishes) that no one was supposed to tread upon ~ Mr. Lovegood. I can see the analogy there - he would do anything to save his child, Luna, and JKR would say anything to save her supposedly stolen copyright (also compared to her child in the courtroom). 

The other is from the nursery rhyme, Little Jack Horner, the boy who stole the Christmas pie.  There's also the famous William Carlos Williams poem about the stolen plums which also seems appropriate to quote here.


Believe Me ~ There's More!!! )



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Stop the Wake! UPDATE: Start the Wake!

  • Dec. 10th, 2008 at 1:23 PM
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UPDATE: Thanks to [info]a_waffling who has discovered that "Early in the morning on 12-19" the Leaky Lounge will close the famous Trial thread, unpinning it and letting it fall like a snowflake down through the other threads of the Muggle Underground Read the official announcement Here. So what will happen next and where will everyone go? It will be nice to see the end of the Wake. Anyone got a popcorn popper? I believe I'll make a pie. I don't know what video is appropriate for this. I wonder where everyone will turn up next? I'll just put two about saying "Goodbye" and "Hitting the Road." After the Wake that is. As Robert Plant so aptly put it, "When the journey is done, there is no turning back on the run."
Original Post Here )



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Please continue celebrating, discussing, ranting, accusing, or whatever - it's your choice.

The original thread is Here.

I'll Update as more is known:

Steve has put up a link on the Lexicon's "What's New" page for ordering the book ~ HERE

Kristin Devoe: Daily Prophet ~ HP Lexicon to be Published Jan. 12th!
MatthewHolm: Harry Potter Lexicon Dispute Concludes with Worst Book Title Ever
Stanford Fair Use: Anthony Falzone ~ Lexicon Resurrected

Original News Links Here )
Are You In With the In-Crowd or Out-Crowd?
~Who Practices Groupthink???~
(Hey, this song has a cool rattlesnake sound to it also)

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that can occur in groups of people. Rather than critically evaluating information, the group members begin to form quick opinions that match the group consensus. Groupthink seems to occur most often when a respected or persuasive leader is present, inspiring members to agree with his or her opinion. Groupthink is sometimes positive but is more often seen in a negative light, particularly in the United States and other countries that value individual opinion. Mass hysteria can be seen as an extreme example of groupthink.
http://phobias.about.com/od/glossary/g/groupthinkdef.htm

What are the Eight Signs of Groupthink? )



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 I'll Update as more is known:  

Steve has put up a link on the Lexicon's "What's New" page for ordering the book ~ HERE

Stanford Fair Use: Anthony Falzone ~ Lexicon Resurrected
Baby Blue on Shell Cottage: The Best of All Worlds ~ The HP Lexicon Will be Published ~ Finally
E-Online: Muggles Beware: Rogue Harry Potter Publisher Back on the Loose!
Publisher's Weekly: RDR Drops Rowling Appeal; Has New Book

Bluestocking has an Inklings News Alert Podcast on her blog now.
Muskegon Chronicle 12-5 ~ Publisher will issue Harry Potter Lexicon

Muskegon Chronicle 12-5 ~ Cutlerville Native Pens Second Harry Potter Reference

 Leaky Cauldron 12-4-08  Publisher RDR Books voluntarily withdrew its appeal in the RDR Books vs. WB/JKR case concerning the publication of an unauthorized Harry Potter encyclopedia. The publisher is working on releasing a version of the book in question that complies with the judge's ruling, which indicated that the original book copied heavily from the Harry Potter books. There was no settlement in the case.

The Christopher Little Agency released the following statement today:
"...We are also pleased to hear that rather than continue to litigate, RDR have themselves decided to publish a different book prepared with reference to Judge Patterson's decision."

Celebrate!!!!!!!!



A Song for the Leaky Cauldron Regulars
"Unbelievable"
(Song starts at .55)


The Rest of SIP's Dance Party and Hippies for Justice Under Here )



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The writer Orson Scott Card is fired up again about JKR and the Lexicon case. His original essay about the Lexicon trial is here:

JKR, The Lexicon, and Oz .

His latest is a rather long entry on his blog forum, so go to the link and scroll down to read it:

Orson Scott Card Speaks Out about the Lexicon Verdict


Read An Excerpt Under the Cut... )
Secondly, here is one I overlooked ~ Ken Jennings who originally wrote opinions of the Lexicon Case Here and Here.

To Azkaban With You!

Read An Excerpt Here . . .  )



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Bloggers Write about the Lexicon Ruling

  • Sep. 9th, 2008 at 8:46 AM
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I'm just going to list blogs about the Lexicon Ruling here, and I will update when something new comes along.

Again here is Judge Patterson's Decision

Read What the Bloggers are Saying Here... )

Steve Vander Ark has also been busy since yesterday, doing interviews and talking about his new travel book coming in October: In Search of Harry Potter.

Links to Articles and Quotes from Steve Under Here )



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General News From Harry Potter Fandom

  • Aug. 20th, 2008 at 6:39 PM
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Bluestocking has more Lexicon Trial Analysis, this time of the allegedly "expert" witness of Jeri Johnson. I love the way she tries to define what a Lexicon is, yet has nothing but her own opinion!

The Testimony of Jeri Johnson

Excerpt: Johnson: “But what do I think? I think it is not a lexicon either. A lexicon would be a word list, yes, where the word is most frequently reserved for Greek or Latin dictionaries forhistorical reasons. But we would expect a lexicon to have the kinds of information systematically and uniformly given that this doesn't, like etymologies or like pronunciations. "Lexicon" is another word for dictionary.”

Bluestocking: You know Ms. Johnson you should really stop speaking in absolutes like you are the authority. I checked my copy of Webster’s Dictionary, lexicon is listed as an encyclopedia not a word list. Would it really have been that hard to check this out? Once again, some examples would be really nice. Just so you know, when experts testify they give their opinions to a reasonable certainty. See the problem with absolutes is that you run the risk of having your opponent start putting Lexicons that are more than merely word lists and start quizzing you on them. In addition, a really cheeky lawyer might read you the Webster’s dictionary definition.

If you haven't seen it yet, here is cover from Steve's new book from Methuen, hopefully coming out in October of this year. Good Luck with it, Steve!


Then the Warner Bros. saga continues with a new statement from Alan Horn about how much he loves the fans, and how WB postponed the HBP movie for our own good.
Rope of Silicon Blog: Warner Bros Puts Their Disrespect for HP Fans in Writing

Meanwhile, Dan Radcliffe said in an Interview not to blame him, as some bloggers have insinuated that his Equus perfomance in the fall is the reason for the delay. He says he was told about the movie change 24 hours before it hit the news.
Snitchseeker: Exclusive Dan Radcliffe New York Times Talk

JKR is designing stained glass for charity now! Amazing that she keeps finding that lost creativity, and new ways to protect her philanthropy besides suing people:
Snitchseeker: JKR Designs Glass Pane for Charity Raffle
 



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Lexicon Update: August Legal Hodgepodge

  • Aug. 8th, 2008 at 3:37 PM
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Bluestocking has more analysis of the Lexicon Trial - the legal gift that keeps on giving.

The Tesimony of Janet Sorensen

And remember back when we were talking about the Trial Scenes in Gilligan's Island?  I found one of them on YouTube.  Apologies to my British friends here for the horrible faux-Brit accents, and the parodies of everything from My Fair Lady to Mary Poppins:



Next, I read about a Trademark case that made me scoff in disbelief. An Alaska woman named Barbara Holmes made some baby clothes with the phrase "Got Breastmilk?" appliqued on them, and guess what - attorneys for the California Milk Processors Board sent out C&Ds saying she was threatening their trademark for "Got Milk."  They not only told her desist, but they requested that she send them all the materials she used in making the clothes. Don't these attorneys have anything better to do?  I mean, honestly?

Harvard Law Blog: The Most Thorough Trademark Policing Ever

Anchorage Daily News: Got Milk? Lawyers Huff at Talkeetna Artist's Parody

OMG - and check out her Backwoods Attorney. I love this guy!  




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The Long Hot Summer of our Discontent

  • Aug. 4th, 2008 at 12:20 AM
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Well, still no news about the Lexicon Trial. Will August be a turning point? Or has my blog become the online equivalent of Bleak House, and my life the eqivalent of the Madwoman in the Attic who lives alone with her parakeet? Well perhaps . . . if I lived alone instead of in a crowded house full of teenagers, and if I had a parakeet instead of a rambunctious little dog.

On with the Legal News:

Bluestocking continues her analysis of the Lexicon Trial with a good witness for the Defense, who was actually prepared and qualified to give testimony:

The Testimony of Bruce Harris

Next, William Patry, one of the first people to ever write about the Lexicon Case, has ended his own long-running blog this week, stating that people see him now only as a mouthpiece for Google and not a private blogger, crazy people write comments on his blog, and that he finds the state of copyright in the U.S. to be "depressing."

"Much like the U.S. economy, things are getting worse, not better. Copyright law has abandoned its reason for being: to encourage learning and the creation of new works. Instead, its principal functions now are to preserve existing failed business models, to suppress new business models and technologies, and to obtain, if possible, enormous windfall profits from activity that not only causes no harm, but which is beneficial to copyright owners. Like Humpty-Dumpty, the copyright law we used to know can never be put back together again: multilateral and trade agreements have ensured that, and quite deliberately."
His blog has been deleted, but luckily, I saved a copy of Patry's essay on the Lexicon Trial: Read it Here.  It's sad that he is so pessimistic - probably because Google is having troubles with YouTube in the courts.

Finally, Techdirt has this Article:

Hasbro's Nightmare: Scrabulous Returns With New Name And (A Few) New Rules
from the bad-business-decision. dept


It seems that the toy company Hasbro has sued a group on Facebook for creating their own online version of the word-game Scrabble - called "Scrabulus." I can't make this stuff up - it sounds like a name from one of JKR's Prequels. 

"The awkward, shy, greasy, and worst of all, unpopular Scrabbulus crept down the hallway clutching his stack of books, which included a dictionary, a thesaurus, and most infuriating of all, a cheaply alphabetized Lexicon of wizarding terms which he had pulled from a toilet in Moaning Myrtle's bathroom where a girl named Jo had chucked it in disgust." 





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Bluestocking has added some new posts, one legal and one literary:

The Rule of Evidence 101

Author Biography: Stephanie Meyer 

She has some new insights from Judge Bluestocking and her fictional courtroom, as well as insights into the way evidence was handled in the Lexicon case. UPDATE: Her comments are still not working but she has added a "shoutbox" where you can write comments.



Next . . . My friend [info]wimble_mimble discovered an oddity about the recent Movie Magic article about what supposedly happens to poor besieged Arthur Weasley. Did WB lift something else right out of the Lexicon and use a paraphrase as their own?  Or did Movie Magic?




Finally, I came across this press release about an attorney out in California (Carol Handler) who says she is "available" to the press to discuss the Lexicon case if and when the verdict comes down. I thought she had some interesting things to say about the case:

. . . Handler notes that the judge in the often-emotional Harry Potter Lexicon case tried to get the parties to settle, saying the issues involved were not a proper subject for litigation. "This is uncharted territory where we have essentially empowered the audience to be a creator and there is a need for all sides to work out how far the audience can go. And there are mechanisms aside from litigation that could be brought to bear on these issues to work out the ways in which creators can remain in control of their work, while allowing their fans to continue to enjoy and participate in their creation."



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Bluestocking on Trials and Circuses

  • Jul. 8th, 2008 at 12:12 PM
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Bluestocking is going to help everyone who is having "Trial Withdrawal" with her latest entry.

Trial and Post-Trial Hodge Podge

The first half is about a hypothetical Jury Trial involving negligence on ice and snow (good choice since it is about 100 degrees outside!), with some enjoyable local characters, and "Judge Bluestocking" presiding. (This has to be a continuing series!)

The second part gets down to brass tacks about what will happen in the aftermath of the WB/JKR vs. RDR decision.

Next . . . I found this article about a guy from Gladbrook, Iowa, who has built a replica of Hogwarts out of matchsticks. Poor guy - pretty soon the papers will arrive telling him not to sell it on E-Bay and probably asking him to destroy it. He's planning to build Minas Tirith, but maybe he should wait and see if he can afford the matchsticks . . .

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This calls for a video! How about David Byrne and the Talking Heads? 
"Burning Down the House."

Hold Tight -- We're In For Nasty Weather )



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Lexicon Update: Scottish Book Hurlyburly

  • Jul. 6th, 2008 at 5:53 PM
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Hogwarts Professor ~ John Granger ~ has some interesting musings on why JKR wishes to refer to her Encyclopedia as "The Scottish Book." Obviously it's a reference to the curse of "The Scottish Play" - MacBeth by Shakespeare. But what else might be going on with that?

You language buffs will enjoy this.

Why Call the Encyclopedia The Scottish Book? 
~ By John Granger

If we think of Macbeth as the "backdrop" of the Lexicon saga, then certain quotes take on new meaning:

"Or have we eaten on the insane root
That takes the reason prisoner?"
- Macbeth, 1.3 

"I have bought
Golden opinions from all sorts of people."
- Macbeth, 1.7

"First Witch: When shall we three meet again
In thunder, lightning, or in rain?
Second Witch: When the hurlyburly's done,
When the battle's lost and won."
- Macbeth, 1.1

"Fair is foul, and foul is fair."
- Macbeth, 1.1

Two truths are told,
As happy prologues to the swelling act
Of the imperial theme."
- Macbeth, 1.3

"There's daggers in men's smiles."
-Macbeth, 2.3

"By the pricking of my thumbs,
Something wicked this way comes."
- Macbeth, 4.1

"What! can the devil speak true?"
- Macbeth, 1. 3

"Come what come may,
Time and the hour runs through the roughest day."
- Macbeth, 1.3

More Here: Hence, horrible shadow! Unreal mockery, hence )



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Still no news about the Lexicon. The long vigil continues. 

I just saw this article by Professor Alastair McCleery of the Scottish Centre for the Book, Napier University:

Dead Hands Keep a Closed Book

No, don't worry - that rather startling title doesn't mean he is advocating death to writers, but hoping that the descendents of deceased writers will allow more freedom for academic writers to use the published works of the departed. He is complaining about copyright "extension" which allows nearly perpetual copyrights for heirs to a literary estate.

And yes, that would mean a loosening of the copyright laws in some cases, and he goes through quite a bit of the history of copyright, and UK legislation. But methinks the Scottish professor contradicts himself and sounds a bit like an intellectual snob when he singles out the HP Lexicon as a special case because he sees it as "nakedly parasitical." Come on . . . really?  




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There was an interesting verdict in a Fair Use case in New York City the other day - I believe this is the same Federal Court that is deciding the Harry Potter Lexicon case JKR/WB vs. SVA/RDR. A filmmaker along with actor Ben Stein wanted to use John Lennon's complete song "Imagine" ("there's no religion") as an ironic counterpoint to a film sequence in a conservative anti-evolution film. Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, along with her son Sean and step-son Julian, filed for a permanent injunction against the film being distributed, and wanted all copies of it destroyed. The Judge, however, ruled that the use of the song was Fair Use, and denied the injunction.

You can read about it on the Stanford Fair Use Project website. Anthony Falzone, who did the closing statement in the Lexicon trial, also represented the defendents in this case.

 Dan Slater in WSJ Law Blog wrote: "Transformation trumps all. That’s the lesson we take away from today’s decision."

Indeed, most legal bloggers are viewing the verdict as appropriate in terms of Copyright and Fair Use, even if they disagreed with the goal of the filmmakers.

Kevin Smith writes in the Duke University Copyright Blog:

Imagining Fair Use

The judge has rejected a request by the Yoko Ono for a preliminary injunction that would prevent the distribution of the film. Ono claimed that the use of this short clip without her permission was copyright infringement. Given the vastly different political perspectives involved, it is unlikely permission would have been forthcoming. But the judge ruled that it was also unlikely that permission was necessary, since there was a strong claim that the use was fair use. Since one of the criteria for getting a preliminary injunction is “likelihood of success on the merits,” Ono’s request was denied because the judge felt it was unlikely she would succeed on the underlaying claim that using the clip was infringement.

. . . Nor does the film Expelled compete in any way with the market for the recordings of John Lennon. And in a traditional transformative use case, the owner of the original may not have much desire to license the use if asked, since the proposed new use often subjects the original to criticism or ridicule (as in this case). Transformative uses are often those uses where there is a strong possibility that the copyright owner in the original work would use his or her rights to suppress the new speech; fair use is the remedy that prevents this censorship by copyright.

For me, this role of fair use in preserving copyright as the “engine of free expression” is especially clear in this case (for an explanation and discussion of this quote from Harper & Row v. Nation Enterprises, see this report from The Free Expression Project). Free speech is always hardest to accept, and most important to remember, when one disagrees violently with what is being said. In this case, I personally have little use for the claims being made in the movie “Expelled;” they strike me as inflammatory and hard to defend with real logic or facts. Nevertheless, the right of the movie producers to make those claims is inviolate, in my opinion, and it is important that they have the tools to make their case in the best way the can. Fair use is an important tool to support creative expression, whether I agree with the content of that expression or not. The arguments being made in the movie may fail, but the judge got this decision exactly right when he ruled that the producers could use the tools they did (including a small part of another’s copyrighted expression) to make those arguments." 




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[info]lunas_ceiling  suggested this song while we wait - good idea!

 

 

 

 




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First of all, since some of you are sick of Fandom, I've got a video first for a change. You can watch it and then walk away if you like. This is for all my friends, old and new, but especially my friend

[info]corvus_coronis because she first introduced me to this song and video. Also, without mentioning any other names, this is for everyone who is having a "friendship crisis" right now. There couldn't be a more appropriate song for Fandom right now: 
The Stranglers: Skin Deep  


 



Next: After the Week of Wu, I thought the Pottercast folks might just walk away from all the controversy and talk about something else.

Wrong. In Pottercast 151: Spontaneous Combustion there is a more discussion than ever on the Lexicon Trial and more about Tim Wu, who is characterized with an undignified word I will leave under the Livejournal cut. There is speculation about just how many of us are in the "loud minority" on the "other side" of the Lexicon case. Everyone it seems has been taken out of context and misquoted. Everyone is suffering. And so much more.

Here are a few excerpts for those readers who can't listen to it. I am not a professional transcriptionist, and if I 've gotten someone's name wrong, please don't throw Hippogriff dung at me! I'm fortyish, too, and my ears can fail me. Also, where necessary, I've added a counterpoint of information that I felt was necessary.

*Now 100% Complete with extra Boring stuff in Blue* so Anonymous people won't think I'm leaving out important facts 
(I didn't listen beyond the end of this, nor am I ever going to, thanks.)
 




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The other day, I posted a comment from the writer Karen Brown, author of Prejudice in Harry Potter. I had originally seen the comment on Kristin Devoe's Daily Prophet blog, and I posted it Here in a discussion of Tim Wu's New Yorker Article.

I did not know Ms. Brown, but I wrote an e-mail to her inviting her to comment further, which she did. I never meant to drag her into a huge controversy or cause problems for her in any way, and I am so sorry. I have quoted dozens of bloggers in the past few months to show different views, and several of them have decided to comment here with no drama.  

I was just trying to give a balanced view of the case, since I have been criticized for my own bias. I felt that Ms. Brown had a refreshing view, since she is a fan and supporter of J. K. Rowling, but was wishing that fandom would tone down their criticism of Steve Vander Ark and let the legal system decide the fate of his book.

But due to unfortunate things that have been said in the past few days, Ms. Brown has been drawn into some accusations and threats, both public and private. She feels her statement is being misconstrued and her views distorted. This has caused her a great deal of distress, and she decided to state her own view in a public setting.  Therefore Karen has put out a Press Release:

Caught on the Wrong Side of Harry Potter Fandom 


 




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               As my friend [info]lunas_ceiling put it, this has been the

                        "Week of Wu." 

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Just for the record, let's remind ourselves of who he is. 

He does NOT work with the Stanford Fair Use Project attorneys who are representing RDR books in the Lexicon lawsuit.

Tim Wu is a Columbia Law Professor and writer. Last week he led part of a panel discussion in New York called "OnCopyright 2008." That is his field of interest, and yes, he has strong opinions. Everyone should already know that because he wrote an Article for Slate in January entitled "J.K. Rowling's Dark Mark: Why she should lose her copyright lawsuit against the Harry Potter Lexicon." That's a very simple, straight-forward title. So it shouldn't be a secret that he has an opinion about this case.

However, when he wrote the short vignette in the New Yorker entitled Fan Feud , it caused quite a stir, as my readers know (see the past few entries for details). He also wrote a follow-up on his blog What's New With Wu in which he restated his view.

Some in Fandom feel his article was a cheap shot at people who are already upset. For instance, Sue, one of the regulars on Leaky Cauldron's Pottercast who was actually quoted in Wu's now famous vignette has now blogged about her feelings: The Elephant in the Room.




An alternate view to that is a comment written on Kristin Devoe's Blog "The Daily Prophet" in reference to the New Yorker story. Karen Brown author of the book Prejudice in Harry Potter's World wrote her own opinion of the Leaky Lounge, deleted posts, sympathy for Steve Vander Ark, and the so-called impartiality of fandom.  I think she speaks for many of us who are still Harry Potter fans, and who are not personally involved, but still have a right to our alternative opinions. 

Tonight an interesting encounter on Leaky in which Melissa accused the poster kbnthomas of being Karen Brown, and demanded a retraction of the comment posted above.  About the deletions - many people who support Steve Vander Ark have been deleted on Leaky.  I don't see how we can "prove" that now, since the posts are, by definiton, gone.  If Melissa wants to open up her logs for a day and let us see the names of the people deleted in the past three months, that might convince me, so I would urge her to "prove" that we haven't been deleted.




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