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  • Feb. 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 AM
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There's a new phenomenon going on. These are social networking groups similar to Facebook or MySpace, but geared for Harry Potter Fandom.

MuggleSpace  and MyLeaky

I've been so busy getting used to the real Facebook that alot of this was off my radar until this week. But having now joined the two big HP social groups myself, I have a few observations to compare and contrast them.

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Those Plundered Plums

  • Jan. 6th, 2009 at 7:48 AM
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I left out a "plum" of a quote from my Best of JKR list last week, and that's not right since this had such a Christmasy theme! Therefore, this post is for [info]aredwitch, who enjoyed the following quotes more than anyone I know. I'm also adding a new "plundered plums" tag, because I'm absolutely sure we may hear this phrase again when the new Lexicon book is published later this month.

From the Trial Transcript, Day Three

I have a very strong view and my view --
4 my view is that it is analogous to me making a cake and that in
5 the creation of this Lexicon, all the plums in my cake, as it
6 were. . .

I believe that
13 the contents of those books have been plundered

From Cendali's Summation:

It's incentivizing people who write about Harry
24 Potter to take less, to not just copy, as Ms. Rowling, once
25 again, eloquently put it, not taking the plums in her cake or

1 cherry-picking out the adorable wonderful clever things about
2 it and selling in her own. Not taking her plums; so taking
3 less, but doing more
And from the Judge's Final Opinion, page 18 (even he seemed impressed!):

She compared this taking of her work to plundering all of the “plums in [her]
cake.” (Tr. (Rowling) at 647:3-6).
And that caused [info]aredwitch to write on Leaky Cauldron:

"DE(DavidEnglish) did the judge really write that SVA 'plundered' JKR and stolen her 'plums'? That sounds so out of place in a legal document, I have to go back and read it again. It sounds so suggestive. Who knew that a legal judgement could be so sexy?
So it occurred to me that there are two analogies going on here with the "Plundered Plums" reference. One is to the obvious character in Deathly Hallows who was owner of the "dirigible plums" (strange radishes) that no one was supposed to tread upon ~ Mr. Lovegood. I can see the analogy there - he would do anything to save his child, Luna, and JKR would say anything to save her supposedly stolen copyright (also compared to her child in the courtroom). 

The other is from the nursery rhyme, Little Jack Horner, the boy who stole the Christmas pie.  There's also the famous William Carlos Williams poem about the stolen plums which also seems appropriate to quote here.


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Please continue celebrating, discussing, ranting, accusing, or whatever - it's your choice.

The original thread is Here.

I'll Update as more is known:

Steve has put up a link on the Lexicon's "What's New" page for ordering the book ~ HERE

Kristin Devoe: Daily Prophet ~ HP Lexicon to be Published Jan. 12th!
MatthewHolm: Harry Potter Lexicon Dispute Concludes with Worst Book Title Ever
Stanford Fair Use: Anthony Falzone ~ Lexicon Resurrected

Original News Links Here )
Are You In With the In-Crowd or Out-Crowd?
~Who Practices Groupthink???~
(Hey, this song has a cool rattlesnake sound to it also)

Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that can occur in groups of people. Rather than critically evaluating information, the group members begin to form quick opinions that match the group consensus. Groupthink seems to occur most often when a respected or persuasive leader is present, inspiring members to agree with his or her opinion. Groupthink is sometimes positive but is more often seen in a negative light, particularly in the United States and other countries that value individual opinion. Mass hysteria can be seen as an extreme example of groupthink.
http://phobias.about.com/od/glossary/g/groupthinkdef.htm

What are the Eight Signs of Groupthink? )



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 I'll Update as more is known:  

Steve has put up a link on the Lexicon's "What's New" page for ordering the book ~ HERE

Stanford Fair Use: Anthony Falzone ~ Lexicon Resurrected
Baby Blue on Shell Cottage: The Best of All Worlds ~ The HP Lexicon Will be Published ~ Finally
E-Online: Muggles Beware: Rogue Harry Potter Publisher Back on the Loose!
Publisher's Weekly: RDR Drops Rowling Appeal; Has New Book

Bluestocking has an Inklings News Alert Podcast on her blog now.
Muskegon Chronicle 12-5 ~ Publisher will issue Harry Potter Lexicon

Muskegon Chronicle 12-5 ~ Cutlerville Native Pens Second Harry Potter Reference

 Leaky Cauldron 12-4-08  Publisher RDR Books voluntarily withdrew its appeal in the RDR Books vs. WB/JKR case concerning the publication of an unauthorized Harry Potter encyclopedia. The publisher is working on releasing a version of the book in question that complies with the judge's ruling, which indicated that the original book copied heavily from the Harry Potter books. There was no settlement in the case.

The Christopher Little Agency released the following statement today:
"...We are also pleased to hear that rather than continue to litigate, RDR have themselves decided to publish a different book prepared with reference to Judge Patterson's decision."

Celebrate!!!!!!!!



A Song for the Leaky Cauldron Regulars
"Unbelievable"
(Song starts at .55)


The Rest of SIP's Dance Party and Hippies for Justice Under Here )



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The Anniversary of RDR versus JKR/WB

  • Nov. 1st, 2008 at 2:30 AM
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Was it really only a year ago that J. K. Rowling and Warner Bros. sued RDR Books over the Harry Potter Lexicon on Halloween?

It seems more like an eternity, and alot of phrases come to mind. Dark night of the soul. Sold their soul to the company store. In League with the Devil. The Twilight Zone. Through the Looking-Glass. Down the Rabbit Hole. Down the Drain. Boiled in Oil. Keelhauled. Run Amok. Attacked by Harpies. Between Scylla and Charybdis. Nibbled by Geese. Drawn and Quartered. Chastised. Burned at the stake. Run out of Dodge.

But that's really giving the "other side" too much credit. They never actually chased us away, or kept us from writing one word we wanted to write. Of course, people have truly been hurt and reputations have been smeared by lies and innuendoes, and I don't think anyone understands the damage that their constant barrage of negativity has done to people. However, they never really had the big "gotcha" moment in which RDR and Steve Vander Ark were turned penniless out into the street, no matter how many times that was discussed with glee and longing. Many times things didn't turn out the way the Lexicon Haters thought it would - or should I say, every time. And sometimes things became so absurd we had to laugh at the nonsense.

Speaking of which, and in honor of this auspicious date, David English on Leaky Cauldron has made the following colorful suggestion:

It might be nice if the Potter Puppet Pals did a reenactment of the case with Snape as SVA, Hermione as Jo, Fudge as RDR, McGonagall as Dale Cendali, Lucius Malfoy as Falzone/Hammer, and Dumbledore as Judge Patterson. "What's that ticking sound? Oh, it's a Cease & Desist letter. Just ignore it and it'll go away." *BOOM*


Well, I think we can do better than that ~ what are your suggestions? How about Snape as Hammer, for one thing? *evil* I seem to recall a bit of snark from him.  And Cendali is not the stoical McGonagall - I can think of a few other characters who fit her persona alot better.  Please give your suggestions and have fun with it!



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Veiled Criticism

  • Sep. 26th, 2008 at 7:40 AM
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Yesterday an excerpt of an interview with JKR was released from Melissa A.'s book Harry: A History. You can read the entire piece on Here.

As you might expect, I have a few problems with what she said. 

These are My Opinions based on the Way I Read the Canon and I'm Sorry In Advance If This Offends Anyone )

One more piece of Melissa trivia: She did an interview with Staten Island Live about "Pod People" or those who do Podcasts. I'll just post an excerpt of the article because it speaks for itself:

Staten Island Live: Pod People

Ironically, what Madden dubs podcasting's "democratic reach" also could be its downfall.

"Because of the ease of doing it, a lot of people will wind up doing it who don't have talent and don't have anything particular to say," agrees DJ Paul Bruno, 30, a self-proclaimed "rock snob" from Shore Acres who incorporated a podcast into his "Unblinking Ear" music blog six months ago.

In short, without enforced quality standards, the rambling results (sometimes three hours in length) are often more fun for the D.I.Y. crowd making them than the people listening on their iPod.

But then again, duds come and go in every artistic medium, points out onetime Annadale resident Melissa Anelli, 28, co-founder of Pottercast, a J.K. Rowling-endorsed show dedicated to the "Harry Potter" book and film franchise.

"It's the same thing as free market competition. If you're better, the cream will rise," says Anelli, a former Advance reporter whose program rates 30,000 to 40,000 downloads per episode. "That happens in television. That happens in theater."

While big audiences -- and profits -- are still a dream for indie operators like "Degocast," "Pottercast" has attracted sponsors since six months after it debuted in August 2005. Still, that revenue isn't paying anybody's rent, says Anelli, webmistress of The-Leaky-Cauldron.org, the parent site of "Pottercast." The offshoot only brings in as much as 5 percent of the site's revenue.

"It's a nice cushion. We're able to afford a new mic when somebody's mic breaks," says Anelli
, whose current sponsor is Audible Inc., a division of Amazon.com, that sells digital audio editions of books, newspapers and magazines.
Edited to Add: Melissa later said she was either misunderstood or the writer edited too much or something. Read It Here.



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My friend Bluestocking has posted some new enlightening essays for your summer reading pleasure:

It Ain't Libel If It's True!

and . . .


Copyright Through the Annals of Time, Part One

Yes it all started with the fabled "book curse." Photobucket


Let's take a trip to the "Lego Hogwarts Library" shall we? I've never heard Madam Pince sound so convincing (and alot like Norman Bates' mother from Psycho):


 




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First of all, since some of you are sick of Fandom, I've got a video first for a change. You can watch it and then walk away if you like. This is for all my friends, old and new, but especially my friend

[info]corvus_coronis because she first introduced me to this song and video. Also, without mentioning any other names, this is for everyone who is having a "friendship crisis" right now. There couldn't be a more appropriate song for Fandom right now: 
The Stranglers: Skin Deep  


 



Next: After the Week of Wu, I thought the Pottercast folks might just walk away from all the controversy and talk about something else.

Wrong. In Pottercast 151: Spontaneous Combustion there is a more discussion than ever on the Lexicon Trial and more about Tim Wu, who is characterized with an undignified word I will leave under the Livejournal cut. There is speculation about just how many of us are in the "loud minority" on the "other side" of the Lexicon case. Everyone it seems has been taken out of context and misquoted. Everyone is suffering. And so much more.

Here are a few excerpts for those readers who can't listen to it. I am not a professional transcriptionist, and if I 've gotten someone's name wrong, please don't throw Hippogriff dung at me! I'm fortyish, too, and my ears can fail me. Also, where necessary, I've added a counterpoint of information that I felt was necessary.

*Now 100% Complete with extra Boring stuff in Blue* so Anonymous people won't think I'm leaving out important facts 
(I didn't listen beyond the end of this, nor am I ever going to, thanks.)
 




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The other day, I posted a comment from the writer Karen Brown, author of Prejudice in Harry Potter. I had originally seen the comment on Kristin Devoe's Daily Prophet blog, and I posted it Here in a discussion of Tim Wu's New Yorker Article.

I did not know Ms. Brown, but I wrote an e-mail to her inviting her to comment further, which she did. I never meant to drag her into a huge controversy or cause problems for her in any way, and I am so sorry. I have quoted dozens of bloggers in the past few months to show different views, and several of them have decided to comment here with no drama.  

I was just trying to give a balanced view of the case, since I have been criticized for my own bias. I felt that Ms. Brown had a refreshing view, since she is a fan and supporter of J. K. Rowling, but was wishing that fandom would tone down their criticism of Steve Vander Ark and let the legal system decide the fate of his book.

But due to unfortunate things that have been said in the past few days, Ms. Brown has been drawn into some accusations and threats, both public and private. She feels her statement is being misconstrued and her views distorted. This has caused her a great deal of distress, and she decided to state her own view in a public setting.  Therefore Karen has put out a Press Release:

Caught on the Wrong Side of Harry Potter Fandom 


 




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               As my friend [info]lunas_ceiling put it, this has been the

                        "Week of Wu." 

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Just for the record, let's remind ourselves of who he is. 

He does NOT work with the Stanford Fair Use Project attorneys who are representing RDR books in the Lexicon lawsuit.

Tim Wu is a Columbia Law Professor and writer. Last week he led part of a panel discussion in New York called "OnCopyright 2008." That is his field of interest, and yes, he has strong opinions. Everyone should already know that because he wrote an Article for Slate in January entitled "J.K. Rowling's Dark Mark: Why she should lose her copyright lawsuit against the Harry Potter Lexicon." That's a very simple, straight-forward title. So it shouldn't be a secret that he has an opinion about this case.

However, when he wrote the short vignette in the New Yorker entitled Fan Feud , it caused quite a stir, as my readers know (see the past few entries for details). He also wrote a follow-up on his blog What's New With Wu in which he restated his view.

Some in Fandom feel his article was a cheap shot at people who are already upset. For instance, Sue, one of the regulars on Leaky Cauldron's Pottercast who was actually quoted in Wu's now famous vignette has now blogged about her feelings: The Elephant in the Room.




An alternate view to that is a comment written on Kristin Devoe's Blog "The Daily Prophet" in reference to the New Yorker story. Karen Brown author of the book Prejudice in Harry Potter's World wrote her own opinion of the Leaky Lounge, deleted posts, sympathy for Steve Vander Ark, and the so-called impartiality of fandom.  I think she speaks for many of us who are still Harry Potter fans, and who are not personally involved, but still have a right to our alternative opinions. 

Tonight an interesting encounter on Leaky in which Melissa accused the poster kbnthomas of being Karen Brown, and demanded a retraction of the comment posted above.  About the deletions - many people who support Steve Vander Ark have been deleted on Leaky.  I don't see how we can "prove" that now, since the posts are, by definiton, gone.  If Melissa wants to open up her logs for a day and let us see the names of the people deleted in the past three months, that might convince me, so I would urge her to "prove" that we haven't been deleted.




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Tim Wu has written a follow-up on his blog to the New Yorker Article about Steve Vander Ark and Fandom. 

Wu Writes:


"Unsurprisingly, the fan reaction has been visceral, in all sorts of directions. I particularly like being compared to Rita Skeeter. Obviously there is much more I would have liked to have put in - there were hours of interviews, and great contributions from Sheryll Townsend that were cut in their entirely to my dismay. But overall the thrust of the article was to describe the feud over Steven Vanderark in fandom, and his punishment therein.

Ironically, the article itself seems to have led to even more feuding in fandom.
Melissa Anelli in particular feels she has been misrepresented; though I am not sure I see why. Briefly, I mention and quote language to the effect that her and other leaders in fandom have been strong supporters of Rowling, and tough on Steve Vander Ark. This no one can deny. It is also true that Anelli herself has a good relationship with Rowling, and is writing a book, on fandom, with her blessing. These are the facts - and I didn’t refer to her as having mushroom hair, so she ought be happy.

Perhaps I will end with a para that was cut from the piece that seems to capture things:

Sheryll Townsend, a forty-eight year old Slytherin and fellow member of Harry Potter for Grownups (she calls herself a “list elf”), said, “Fandom tends to eat their own.”

 



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I just transcribed part of Pottercast 148 from Leaky Cauldron, since they can't seem to agree on who said what, and I wanted to hear it for myself. I think the problem that Tim Wu had, and that I had, is that Melissa and Sue sound rather similar when they only give one word answers such as "right."  That implies that they agree, whether they do or not.  There is no way to prove who is agreeing, whether Melissa or Sue. 

John Noe speaks the most, Melissa talks about her book, so we know that is her, and , from comments I've read on Leaky, it is Sue who makes the actual statement about Steve being "vilified" by fandom. So Tim Wu may have to make a correction to that article, but it's obviously all the same because no one argues a different side in this part of the Podcast.


This is the first time I've ever listened to a Pottercast before, although I've read the transcripts.  I admit I didn't listen to the whole thing.  I think I'd rather have a long slow root canal. 




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PoW! Tim Wu must be the bravest man in the United States to write this article! Check out the caricature also!

The Bench: Fan Feud by Tim Wu

I'm glad he didn't call it "Family Feud" although it does have quite a bit of "Mom likes you best" in it!

I posted this link in the Leaky Lounge, then ran for my life. 

Update: Melissa Anelli has written a first impression of this article on Leaky Cauldron:




This is just made of Drama.  



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None of this comes as any surprise to people who follow the Lexicon case. We all know that people have to choose sides, so something had to happen before the trial. Certainly fans of the Lexicon are in a minority, with fans of WB writing derogatory statements such as This Stupid Drinking Game (Enjoy your hangover, but no one can keep your brains from draining out of your ears, poor thing! And do you think next time you could be just a bit more whiny?).

So Today's News:

Based on an interview Steve Vander Ark did with BlogHogwarts, Leaky Cauldron has severed all ties with the HP Lexicon.
Steve's Interview Here With Thoughts On Fandom )


Leaky Cauldron's response to that was to dismantle the Floo Network, although they say they are going to maintain ties with Accio Quote - however, as I reported back in December, that great and venerable HP website (which I've used a million times while writing on forums and for essays) had also announced a while back that they feared their content might be endangered from legal action, and that they were making changes.

Statement from Leaky Cauldron About Floo Sites )

 




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